Sunday, November 9, 2008

ANOTHER INTERNET BATTLE

GOOGLE has done a 'Muscles'. Kinda.

If you're aware of music blog Palm Out Sounds, you'd know that each Sunday they post a 'Remix Sunday'.

It's mostly a giant LOL, generally posting a weekly collection of bedroom remixes. Having said that, it's a blog that I always find myself returning to.

ANYWAYS...

Last week they posted this.

Similarly to the Muscles post, I can't be bothered paraphrasing. Please enjoy the post in it's entirety below.
Oh and here is a picture of Muscles to break up the whole too-many-words-in-a-post thang. (HAPPY NEHA?)




A Brief Word About Remix Sunday

For all of you who are wondering what has happened with Remix Sunday, let me offer a brief explanation:

Google, the IFPI & the RIAA have begun a campaign against all the music blogs hosted on blogger.com - especially high profile blogs, like Palms Out.

This first started a couple of months ago, but only hit Palms Out about a month ago.

Without warning, Google removed three old posts from the blog, and offered no explanation. They then followed by removing Remix Sunday 131, and 132- and offered a brief explanation. Keep in mind, there is no actual copyrighted content uploaded by Palms Out that is hosted on any of Google's servers, only hyperlinks.

Blogger has been notified, according to the terms of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), that certain content in your blog infringes upon the copyrights of others. The URL(s) of the allegedly infringing post(s) may be found at the end of this message.

The DMCA is a United States copyright law that provides guidelines for online service provider liability in case of copyright infringement. We are in the process of removing from our servers the links that allegedly infringe upon the copyrights of others. If we did not do so, we would be subject to a claim of copyright infringement, regardless of its merits. See http://www.educause.edu/Browse/645?PARENT_ID=254 for more information about the DMCA, and see http://www.google.com/dmca.html for the process that Blogger requires in order to make a DMCA complaint.

Blogger can reinstate these posts upon receipt of a counter notification pursuant to sections 512(g)(2) and 3) of the DMCA.


We are in the process of file counter claims because we get permission to post the music on Palms Out, and we don't believe we have done anything wrong, but unfortunately, Google is not playing by the rules. They only offer us the URL of the removed blog posts, they don't tell us which link is causing the problem. This means that we cannot reference any content in our counterclaims.

Our only solution is to move the whole site to our own server. But we are all busy people, and there are many hurdles. Asit stand right now, we are about 75% ready with a new site hosted at http://palmsout.com, but we are having a major problem importing all the past content.

Please bear with us, we are not dying, we are not over. We are only just getting started.

if any of you are wordpress experts and would like to lend a hand - please drop a line to palmsout@gmail.com

Oh and a word to Google: whatever happened to your slogan "Don't Be Evil"? Why would you succumb to the disgusting tactics of the IFPI/RIAA? Especially when you have no legal obligation to remove a hyperlink? Any employees are more than welcome to offer an answer, no one has responded to our inquiries yet.

And for anyone else who is pissed off about this, complain! Write google emails, letters, write blog posts about this, do whatever you can to draw attention to this, and maybe we can reverse this process.

Love, Palms Out.




For me, this means that I can't conveniently go to one site for a weeks worth of not-that-good remixes. BUT I'm pretty PRETTY confident that within the crazy world of the internet, some other blog will start getting more recognition for doing the same thing. The whole collection-of-mp3-posts concept, is not a world first.

For the people behind Palm Out Sounds, they'll probably lose hits. And they sell advertising on their site, so that can't be a good thing. But then is that to say that they are making money off other people's work?

Yeah, probably like 10 cents more than the bedroom DJ who added a baltimore club beat to Michael Jackson's Thriller.

Again, I don't know where to stand or if I could be bothered to stand anywhere. If your blog is renowned for posting mp3s, and you're getting heaps of hits - possible making a profit from it, some corporate entity WILL eventually get you. IF THEY COULD BE BOTHERED.

Hype Machine still exists, right? And so do millions of other blogs that do EXACTLY the same thing as the Remix Sunday posts.

LMAO.

12 comments:

sophie said...

lol that they are are all FUCK YOU GOOGLE and then give out palmsout@gmail.com as their contact info...

noel said...

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saludos

sophie said...

Ah, good.

James said...

noel knows the score (1-0).

Anonymous said...

"For the people behind Palm Out Sounds, they'll probably lose hits. And they sell advertising on their site, so that can't be a good thing. But then is that to say that they are making money off other people's work?"

- Arn't you a dj nina?

nina said...

hi kym.

James said...

Muscles shouldn't show off about being self-managed. He needs someone to tell him that a beard with no moustache is a main look of paedophilia.

Shag said...

Pretty sure Levins managed Muscles until they broke up. The past, eh?

nina said...

also anonymous, I followed that statement with:

'Yeah, probably like 10 cents more than the bedroom DJ who added a baltimore club beat to Michael Jackson's Thriller. '

I could have happily entered the DJ argument in this post. I thought about discussing APRA's planned movement to start charging DJs for the tracks we play. Which may well happen. Would that be fair?

See I think you misunderstand the tone of my post, especially 'But then is that to say that they are making money off other people's work?". Well der?

I was generally saying, why bother?

On the DJ note, if APRA start charging DJs, AND not just the A-Jax's or PHDJ, but every single person that gets a one off set at Health Club... we wont have that scene. Regardless of how you feel about it, it exists and people enjoy it.

Airplay or club play is important. Especially if you can't really make money off sales anymore. You need to tour, and you need to spread your music for free. Maybe the APRA thing makes it fairer for the Crookers or Kid Cudis of the world, who don't have major labels behind them (initially). I just really doubt that the small time DJs (including HOOPS) who play artists like these, could really afford to spend their 50 bucks an hour supporting people (basically in the same boat).

Again, why is stated "Yeah, probably like 10 cents more than the bedroom DJ who added a baltimore club beat to Michael Jackson's Thriller. "

I also work at a radio station. And as 'radio makers' we depend on 'artists' for content and music. We can pay APRA fees at triple j, but community station FBi doesn't.

From memory, they pay quarterly as it would be financially unrealistic for the station to do otherwise. They probably wouldn't be the community station they are today if they had this added cost each day. And try to find an interdependent artist who would want it any other way?

(Sorry for this long reply, my boyfriend just returned to france and I am bored and lonely. )

nina said...

I meant to say that FBI pays APRA fees one week, every couple of months. Not quarterly.

SORR.

sophie said...

i actually found this pretty lol: http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/media/external.htm?mediaType=audio&xmlURL=http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/media/xml/s2408371.xml&launchType=play&windowName=thisWin

stu said...

just to be a prick about it, FBi pay an annual fee to APRA, but the tracks are only logged quarterly. fees to artists are then adjusted, with those four weeks being taken as representative of the whole year. hence FBI used to play heaps more Aussie music during those weeks. dull, huh?